I prefer the pleasures people live for to the causes they die for.
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No one can die for the truth, because living is the truth.
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ReplyDeleteQuite right, why not stay around to support the cause you fought for. No point in dying, the cause dies just a little bit with each martyr.
ReplyDeleteI agree... live for the cause... :)
ReplyDeleteLiving for the cause it's not enough, it sounds like doing nothing for it, you have to act for a cause to make it worth it.
ReplyDeleteAnd about dying for a cause, it just sounds as some religious bullshit. Compared to what one can do for a cause sacrificing one's life might prove pretty useless and worthless. Sacrifice your time, your sleep, your resources, your money, other things which might prove useful, leaving very little to yourself - that's what a cause deserves.
Anyway, I hope i made my point.
Hey nothingprofound, hope you're having a good day :)
Ooh! I particularly love the first one. I think it is one of my all-time favorites.
ReplyDeleteI think therefore I am, am I? Living is truth, well said mate.
ReplyDeleteAll in all, it depends on what form of oppression is worth killing and dying for. Fact is, if I lived in certain places of the world, where I didn't have my freedoms, as other people around me, I'd probably join a cause to topple whatever tyrany there was, and maybe die, to assure that my wife/children would have a better world.
ReplyDeleteBut in today's world, most of us are quite civilized, and most of the countries in the world are free countries.
Fact is, if I can live, and enjoy the pleasures I want to enjoy, as long as they harm no other person or animal, and other people can do the same, then there is nothing worth giving it up for.
I love this
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely love this aphorism, Marty! Well said. The joys of life are so much more rewarding than the causes people die for. You can’t die for the truth when living is the truth. There would be fewer wars and strife if people lived their life with that philosophy.
ReplyDeleteProfound, as the word goes.
ReplyDeleteNP,
ReplyDeleteAs always, this is certainly profound. It’s taken me a few tries to leave a comment because this one is hard for me. I would prefer we all live with pleasure. When I think of troops lost, I don' think of a "cause." From what I know, they fought not because they hated what was in front of them, but because they loved everything behind them (family, freedom) One could argue that is a "cause" but I see love. As you know from my blog, I don't do politics so I don’t wish to have that argument. This subject breaks my heart. I would much prefer that each young man or woman lost were still here with us "living his or her truth.” But I know that what they died for mattered a great deal to them, their family and me. I will never take that lightly or for granted. And I will pray always for an outbreak of peace.
Yeah, that's the one. I don't believe in martyrs either.
ReplyDeleteCheers, ic
I say, "Greater love has no man than this, that he laid down his life for his friends" You always give me something to think about NP.
ReplyDeleteI agree with both of these, Marty. Nowadays, people try to shame anyone who doesn't have a cause, labeling them as selfish or ignorant. I'll take hedonism over heroism any time.
ReplyDelete"I'll take hedonism over heroism any time." Absolutely love that, Kris!
DeleteHmmm. I'm not sure about this. Do our war heroes get negated because they made the ultimate sacrifice, instead of staying home? What about the freedoms we enjoy because someone was willing to go to the stake for it? I agree to an extent only with this one... I think it is naive to enjoy the hedonism that came at so high a price without being thankful that heroism overshadowed personal pleasure in our history.
ReplyDeleteI take a different point of view than most do about so-called war heroes. It's my position that those who refuse to fight and kill demonstrate more courage than those who choose to do the opposite.
ReplyDeleteIn WWI I had American relatives who were pacifist Pentecostals seeking non-combatant service.There were two main drafts. The 1917 draft was targeted men in their 20s and asked if they were requesting exemption. The 1918 draft gives no evidence of exemption. There were 1,100 Holiness or Pentecostal men who claimed religious conscientious objection to war in WWI. I won't go on to recount WWII and the conscientious objectors who became battlefield medics.
Suffice to say there is absolutely no grounds for violence in any circumstance, even in circumstances of self defense, found in the New Testament. Hence, no one can honorably claim that their relative was a hero who fought in any war with God on their side, without revealing both their ignorance and their hypocrisy.
I feel no sens of gratitude towards those who fought, killed and died. I feel a strong sense of gratitude for those who had the courage to took to be battlefield medic,s who dismantled the weapons they were commanded to carry and saw to the injured and dying. They were rewarded with dishonorable discharges by the hypocrites who claimed to be true believers.
"No one can die for the truth, because living is the truth."
Agreed.
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